Posted by
toady on Monday, April 14, 2008 7:30:42 AM
Your defense of Obama was a fair amount more persuasive than was Obama's defense of himelf.
* * *
(note Chasby misread Toady's e-mail and mistook Buchanan for Robertson)
I don't like Pat Robertson. He is often very unecessarily and wrongly harsh. He made some good points . . . BUT . . . his conclusion that black people should thank their lucky stars that they were enslaved in America for two centuries before they were then freed from slavery and then treated as sub-humans for another century leaves a lot to be desired.
At best, Robertson handled a very sensitive issues with absolutely zero sensitivity.
HOWEVER . . . honestly . . . I do not buy your explanation that Rev Wright was taken out of context and is not necessarily an anti-Semitic racist. He has clearly proven that he IS an anti-Semitic racisst.
How many videos of me would you need addressing an audience of thousands of people spewing racist hatred before you would conclude that I was a racist? One video would be enough. Many, many times just makes the proof that much more complete. Even if 99.999% of the time I was not spewing racist hatred and was full of sweetnes and light, if I was spewing racist hatred 0.001% of the time, that would be enough to conclude that I was a racist.
Therefore, there is a political problem for Obama that he stayed in that church for 20 years and has been raising his kids in the same church that gave a "Lifetime Acheivement Award" to Louis Farrakhan. In giving this award, Rev Wright praised Farrakhan for a lifetime of telling the truth. That is EXTREMELY disturbing. The fact that Wright did his and said this proves that those sermons that were played again and again and again were not aberations which were taken out of context. He actually believes this crap. Wright also travelled to Libya to give this award to Farrakhan in the presence of Libya's Kdafi (sp?).
This is also extremely disturbing.
- Wright is Anti-Seimitic as evidenced by the pro-Palestinian (anti-Israel) Op Ed whch he reprinted in the church's magazine.
- Wright is also anti-Semitic as evidenced by the rants that he had during sermons that were for sale off of the churches own website that were shown in the ABC News report.
- Wright is also anti-Semitic as evidenced by the "Lifetime Acheivement Award" to Louis Farrakhan.
Staying in this church for 20 years shows extremely poor judgement on the part of Obama. He has not even begun to adequately explain this. This has caused a 7 point swing from Obama up over Hillary by 2 points to Hillary up over Obama by 5 points.
BUT . . . there is another possibility. It could be that Obama believed none of this crap but he joined one of the largest black churches in South Chicago purely for street cred - for political purposes. This would be a far less disturbing answer . . . BUT . . . it would portray Obama as a big fake which would cause him to likely lose even more support than the "pastor disaster". This would also explain why Obama will not completely disassociate himself from Wright. That alternative would cause an even larger problem.
Either way, Obama has a problem entirely of his own making.
Toady says: Notice again the false choice that is presented... Either Obama has shown poor judgement, sufficient to disqualify him to be president OR he joined the Wright's church for political street cred ....ie. he is a big fake. I should thank my dear friend for allowing me to choose.
Also note that Chasby is not in the least interested in anything about Wright other than the snippets he has seen on TV. He is not interested in the whole of the man and his ministry any more than Wright is interested in the totality of the recent history of America. If Wright looked at the whole of our recent history then his anger would be shown false.... The same would happen to Chasby if he looked at the whole truth.