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Toady presses the attack

 

If I understand you, I think I do, all people are bad… but some people are really really bad.

 I see several problems.  First your example of a not so bad sin is a man who takes great pride in his yard.  Now this is probably not the only sin this guy commits.  He probably commits other worse sins.  But if it were the only sin he committed and if he doesn’t find Christ then he will burn for eternity.  He will burn for eternity for thinking he has the best damn yard in town.  The guy who commits murder… even Hitler… he gets the exact same sentence:  eternal damnation.  I am not trying to argue that God is not just or that God is a complete rat.  I am simply trying to suggest that these “very minor sins” are pretty serious.  I am not sure we really understand the absolute nature of good and evil.

My second and very much related point is to highlight your use of the word “huge”.  You say there are “huge” differences in the amount of evil in different people.  You know as well as I do that the word “huge” has no meaning whatsoever without a reference.  In this case you are comparing the immorality of Hitler to the immorality in normal people.  You say that Hitler’s immorality is “huge” relative to, say, my immorality.   But the business of salvation is not based on MY level of immorality or even Mother Theressa’s.  Absolute morality involves a comparison to Christ, not to me or Pope Benedict or anyone else.  When you compare different people to Christ the differences are really quite small.  A proton is huge relative to an electron, but it is just a proton.  I may be a paragon compared to Hitler, but I am still completely worthy of damnation.  N’est pas?

So given that people are inherently corrupt shouldn’t we be very careful about comparing good people (us) to bad people (them).  Didn’t Christ say this explicitly?  What is that in Mr. Ledeen’s eye anyway?

When Ledeen says that many people, even whole societies are evil, isn’t that anti Christian?  Isn’t that God’s business to determine?  Isn’t Ledeen being blasphemous?

 

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Chasby defends Ledeen

Toady's Q: Can you do me a favor.  Tell me what YOUR deep-seated belief is.  Do you believe that all people are not basically the same?  Do you believe that all people are NOT basically good?  Perhaps God likes some people and dislikes others.  People who kill innocent christians… Perhaps God is not so pleased with these folks.  I don't know though, Paul killed innocent Christians and God liked him well enough.

Chasby's A:  Q: Do I believe that all people are not basically the same?    No.  Every person who has ever walked the earth have sinned except one.  However, there are huge differences in the amount of evil in different people.    Some people's sins are basically very minor.  (e.g., someone has a quiet internal pride that their yard looks so much beter than their neighbor's yard.)   Some people's sins are much larger.  (e.g.,  first-degree murder).  And some are much larger still.  (e.g., Hitler's attempt to conquer innocent nations in a lust for world domination which resulted in WWII and the death of 62 million people).

 Toady's Q: Do you believe that all people are NOT basically good?

Chasby's A: ABSOLUTELY ! ! !    In fact, man is fundamentally bad.  This is one of the most basic tenants of Christianity and besides that I have always found this to be true.  There was a reason that God introduced the Ten Commandments.  People wanted to violate them before, during and after they were introduced.   People generally want to live selfishly to please themselves first.   Sometimes that involved murdering other people.

 Toady's Q: Perhaps God likes some people and dislikes others.

 
Chasby's A: ABSOLUTELY NOT.   In fact, God loves every person exactly the same.  This is another one of the most basic tenants of Christianity.  That doesn't mean, however, that God is equally pleased with every person who has ever lived on the planet.  This is analogous to parents who might have one generally compliant, sweet, obedient child and one generally uncompliant, willfull, selfish disobedient child.  The parents could very honestly say that they love their two children equallly ever though the generally naughty child displeases them much more frequently than the obedient child.

Toady's Q: If some people are basically good and others are basically evil, then is it the responsibility… the God given responsibility… to purge the evil?  

  
Chasby's A: No.  But an innocent nation certainly DOES have the obligation to it's citizens of protecting itself from an aggressive nation who want to destroy it or conquer it. This is somewhat analogous to the responsibility that Police have to the public to find criminals and arrest them for their crimes.  DAs then have the obligation to prosecute dangerous criminals who have been a past manace and are likely to be a future manace to society.  This sometimes means that the police or FBI have the obligation to bust large organized crime rings.  In a similar manner, the US has the obligation to it's citizens to protect them by preventing future terrorist attacks such as those committed on 9/11 or in London or Madrid or Bali, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.  This sometimes means aggresively going after and busting terrorist rings.

Thanks . . Chasby

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a dilemma for Chasby

I recieved an article by Michael Leveen from Chasby today.  It says in part:
 
Why are we failing to see the mounting power of evil enemies?...No doubt there are many reasons. One is the deep-seated belief that all people are basically the same, and all are basically good. Most human history, above all the history of the last century, points in the opposite direction. But it is unpleasant to accept the fact that many people are evil, and entire cultures, even the finest,
 
(the emphasis was Chasby's).
 
Chasby is a very religious fellow and so I cannot understand how he can react positively to this.  It seems he has two choices.  Either all men ARE basically good, imbued with a spark of divinity or all men are basically NOT good, that we have all fallen short of the glory of God.  What I don't understand is how anybody with an ounce of religious integrity can say that some people (us) are basically good while others (them) are evil.
 
So I have asked Chasby to explain... This is the email I sent.  I will let anybody who reads this know how he responds.

Can you do me a favor.  Tell me what YOUR deep-seated belief is.  Do you believe that all people are not basically the same?   Perhaps God likes some people and dislikes others.  People who kill innocent christians… Perhaps God is not so pleased with these folks.  I don’t know though, St. Paul killed innocent Christians and God liked him well enough. 

If some people are basically good and others are basically evil, then is it the responsibility… the God given responsibility… to purge the evil?    

 Bob Dylan once sang…  don’t hate nothing at all except hatred.  So Chasby…As Dylan might ask… Is God on our side?

 
 
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The wrong man

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They locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
 
THE FOOLS.
 
They locked up the wrong man.
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john mccain

Heck of a speech, johnny

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Thank you for your service

In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, I watched helplessly as the Bush administration led America into a strategic blunder of historic proportions. It became painfully obvious that the executive branch of our government did not trust its military. It relied instead on a neoconservative ideology developed by men and women with little, if any, military experience. Some senior military leaders did not challenge civilian decision makers at the appropriate times, and the courageous few who did take a stand were subsequently forced out of the service.
 
Retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez
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What Happened Extract

George Bush: the great pretender

In an extract from a book that has rocked the White House, Scott McLellan, George Bush's former press secretary, accuses his boss of manipulating the truth to launch the Iraq war

President George W. Bush walks the deck of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln

Perhaps God’s greatest gift to us in life is the ability to learn from our experiences, especially our mistakes, and to grow into better people. I have written a book about the slice of history I witnessed during my years in the White House and about the well intentioned but flawed human beings — myself included — who shaped that history.

In my efforts on behalf of the presidential administration of George W Bush I fell far short of living up to the kind of public servant I wanted to be. As press secretary, I spent countless hours defending the administration from the podium in the White House briefing room. Although the things I said then were sincere, I have since come to realise that some of them were badly misguided.

More significant, however, is the larger story in which I played a minor role — the story of how the presidency of George Bush veered terribly off course.

Bush is a man of personal charm, wit and enormous political skill. On paper, the team he assembled was impressive. Dick Cheney, the vice-president, was a serious, vastly experienced hand in the top levels of government. Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, had already enjoyed one successful run at the Pentagon. Colin Powell, the secretary of state, was easily the most popular public figure in the country and could well have been the first African-American president of the United States had he been interested in the job. Even Bush’s chief political adviser, Karl Rove, had a powerful reputation as a brilliant strategic thinker.

I believed in Bush’s leadership and agenda for America and had confidence in his authenticity, integrity and judgment, but today the high hopes that accompanied the early days of his presidency have fallen back to earth. Rumsfeld and Powell are gone, their tenures controversial and disappointing. Cheney’s role is widely viewed as sinister and destructive of the president’s legacy. And Rove’s reputation for political genius is now matched by his reputation as an operative who places political gain ahead of the national interest.

Through it all, Bush remains very much the man he always was — self-confident, quick-witted, down-to-earth and stubborn — though not quite the leader I once imagined him to be. It was the decision to go to war in Iraq that pushed his presidency off course. For Bush, removing the “grave and gathering danger” that Iraq supposedly posed was primarily a means for achieving the far more grandiose objective of reshaping the Middle East as a region of peaceful democracies.

This fateful misstep was based on a confluence of events (the shock of 9/11 and our deceptively quick initial military success in Afghanistan), human nature (ambition, certitude and self-deceit), and a divinely inspired passion (Bush’s deeply held belief that all people have a God-given right to live in freedom). Every president wants to achieve greatness but few do. As I have heard Bush say, only a wartime president is likely to achieve greatness, in part because the upheavals of war provide the opportunity for the transformative change that he hoped to achieve. In Iraq, Bush saw his opportunity to create a legacy of greatness.

I do not know how the war will be viewed decades from now. What I do know is that war should be waged only when necessary and the Iraq war was not necessary. Waging an unnecessary war is a grave mistake. But I’ve come to believe that an even more fundamental mistake was made — a decision to turn away from candour and honesty when those qualities were most needed.

In the autumn of 2002 Bush and his White House engaged in a carefully orchestrated campaign to shape and manipulate sources of public approval to our advantage. We’d done much the same on other issues — tax cuts and education — to great success, but war with Iraq was different. Our lack of candour and honesty in making the case for war would later provoke a partisan response from our opponents that further distorted and obscured a more nuanced reality.

Most of our elected leaders in Washington, Republicans and Democrats, are good, decent people. Yet too many of them today have made a practice of shunning truth and the high level of openness and forthrightness required to discover it. Washington has become the home of the permanent campaign, a game of endless politicking based on the manipulation of shades of truth, partial truths, twisting of the truth and spin. Candour and honesty are pushed to the side in the battle to win the latest news cycle.

Bush, I believe, did not consciously set out to engage in these destructive practices but, like others before him, chose to play the Washington game the way he found it rather than changing the culture as he had vowed to do at the outset of his election campaign. And, like others before him, he has engaged in a degree of self-deception that may be psychologically necessary to justify the tactics needed to win the political game.

He has always been an instinctive leader more than an intellectual leader. He is not one to delve deeply into all the possible policy options — including sitting around engaging in extended debate about them — before making a choice. Rather, he chooses based on his gut and his most deeply held convictions. Such was the case with Iraq.

One core belief Bush holds is that all people have a God-given right to freedom. Another is his deep disdain for tyrants like Saddam Hussein and his well grounded belief that tyrants never give up their desire to possess the world’s most deadly weapons. Bush also believes that America has an obligation to use its power to lead the rest of the world towards a better and more secure future. And he believes a leader should think and act boldly to strive for the ideal.

Once Bush set a course of action, it was rarely questioned. That was certainly the case with Iraq. He was ready to bring about regime change and that, in all likelihood, meant war. The question was not whether, but merely when and how.

Over the summer of 2002 top Bush aides outlined a strategy for carefully orchestrating the coming campaign to sell the war aggressively. But in the pursuit of that goal, embracing a high level of candour and honesty about the potential war — its larger objectives, its likely costs and its possible risks — came a distant second.

What drove Bush towards military confrontation more than anything else was an ambitious and idealistic post–9/11 vision of transforming the Middle East through the spread of freedom. This view was grounded in a philosophy of coercive democracy, a belief that Iraq was ripe for conversion from a dictatorship into a beacon of liberty through the use of force and a conviction that this could be achieved at nominal cost.

Intoxicated by the influence and power of America, Bush believed that a successful transformation of Iraq could be the linchpin for realising his dream of a free Middle East. But there was a problem here — a disconnect between the president’s most heartfelt objective in going to war and the publicly stated rationale for that war.

Bush and his advisers knew that with their strong isolationist streak the American people would almost certainly not support a war launched primarily for the ambitious purpose of transforming the Middle East. The idea of coercive transformation might also provoke all kinds of debates about the realism of the project.

Rather than open this Pandora’s box, the administration chose a different path — not employing out-and-out deception but shading the truth; downplaying the reason for going to war; trying to make the weapons of mass destruction threat and the Iraqi connection to terrorism appear just a little more certain than they were; quietly disregarding some of the crucial caveats in the intelligence and minimising evidence that pointed in the opposite direction.

They also encouraged Americans to believe as fact some things that were unclear and possibly false (for example, that Saddam had an active nuclear weapons programme) and other things that were overplayed or wrong (for example, that Saddam might have had an operational relationship with Al-Qaeda). In late August, at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Nashville, Cheney said: “Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

Although Cheney’s strong language may have been due to his habit of being unable to stay on message — at times he simply could not contain his deep-seated certitude, even arrogance — it’s obvious that Bush knew the increasingly strong language he was employing on Iraq. Their relationship has always been clouded in mystery to some extent, but it is a close one. They spend considerable time together in private meetings, their discussions largely kept confidential.

In the 2004 re-election campaign, Cheney would be the attack dog who went after John Kerry, the Democratic candidate, a little more pointedly than the president could. It is clear to me now that some of the same strategy was used in the Iraq campaign. The vice-president can lean a little more forward in his rhetoric than the president — though I was present on one occasion when, with the media excluded, Bush himself was conspicuously candid.

On Friday September 20, 2002 he hosted a meeting with Republican governors at the White House. “Military force is my last option but it may be the only choice,” Bush stated. “I’m gonna make a prediction. Write this down. Afghanistan and Iraq will lead that part of the world to democracy. They are going to be the catalyst to change the Middle East and the world.”

Saddam was a “brutal, ugly, repugnant man who needs to go. He is also paranoid. This is a guy who killed his own security guards recently. I would like to see him gone peacefully, but if I unleash the military, I promise you it will be swift and decisive”.

When asked about building public support for war, Bush said: “There is a case to be made and I have to make it. Iraq is a threat we will deal with in a logical way. If we have to act, my choices are really three. One, someone kills \. Two, the population rises up and overthrows him. Three, military action.” He emphasised the need to press ahead urgently. He also noted that the mission would be to topple Saddam and change the regime, stating that his two sons and top generals would be removed as well.

“There is nothing more risky than letting Saddam Hussein develop weapons of mass destruction,” Bush commented. “We will deal with him. This is not about inspections. It is about weapons of mass destruction and disarming the regime of them. The inspections are a means to an end. He is an evil man. I have seen a video of Saddam Hussein himself pulling the trigger on a man who didn’t like his policies.”

He stated that “it is a tough decision to commit troops. I assure you, though, if we have to go \, we will be tough and swift and it will be violent so troops can move very quickly”.

When Bush was making up his mind to pursue regime change in Iraq, it is clear that his national security team did little to slow him down, to help him fully understand the tinderbox he was opening and the potential risks in doing so. I know the president pretty well. I believe that, if he had been given a crystal ball in which he could have foreseen the costs of war — more than 4,000 American troops killed, 30,000 injured and tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens dead — he would never have made the decision to invade, despite what he might say or feel he has to say publicly today.

A well considered understanding of the circumstances and history of Iraq and the Middle East should have been brought into the decision-making process. The responsibility to provide this understanding belonged to the president’s advisers and they failed to fulfil it. Powell was apparently the only adviser who even tried to raise doubts about the wisdom of war. The rest of the foreign policy team seemed to be preoccupied with regime change or, in the case of Condi Rice, seemingly more interested in accommodating the president’s instincts and ideas than in questioning them or educating him.

A pro-war campaign might have been more acceptable had it been accompanied by a high level of candour and honesty, but it was not. As the campaign accelerated, caveats and qualifications were downplayed or dropped altogether. Contradictory intelligence was largely ignored or disregarded. Evidence based on high confidence from the intelligence community was lumped together with intelligence of lesser confidence. A nuclear threat was added to the biological and chemical threats to create a sense of gravity and urgency. Support for terrorism was given greater weight by playing up a dubious Al-Qaeda connection to Iraq.

As the president’s top foreign policy adviser, Rice should have stood up to more experienced, strong-viewed advisers such as Cheney and Rumsfeld rather than deferring to them. However, my later experiences with Rice led me to believe that she was more interested in figuring out where the president stood and carrying out his wishes while expending only cursory effort on helping him understand the considerations and potential consequences.

It goes to an important question that critics have raised about the president. Is Bush intellectually incurious or, as some assert, actually stupid? Bush is plenty smart enough to be president, but, as I’ve noted, his leadership style is based more on instinct than deep intellectual debate.

His intellectual curiosity tends to be centred on knowing what he needs in order to articulate, advocate and defend his policies effectively. He keenly recognises the role of marketing and selling policy in today’s governance, so such an approach is understandable to some degree, but his advisers needed to recognise how potentially harmful his instinctual leadership and limited intellectual curiosity can be when it comes to crucial decisions. The fact that he has been portrayed as not bright is unfortunate, but it’s a result of his own mistakes — which could have been prevented had his beliefs been properly vetted and challenged by his top advisers. Instead, his credibility has been shattered and his public standing seemingly irreparably damaged.

In the end, of course, Bush bears ultimate responsibility for the invasion of Iraq. He made the decision to invade and he signed off on a strategy for selling the war that was less than candid and honest. An issue as grave as war must be dealt with openly, forthrightly and honestly. The American people, and especially our troops and their families, deserve nothing less.

© Scott McClellan 2008

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George Bush: APPEASER !

By Michael Abramowitz
updated 11:07 p.m. MT, Mon., May. 26, 2008

WASHINGTON - Sometime in the next few weeks, a special envoy of President Bush plans to meet with Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir, whose government sheltered Osama bin Laden and pursued a scorched-earth policy in southern Sudan that resulted in more than 2 million deaths.   Bashir's government has been accused by Bush of participating in a "genocide" in Darfur, the only U.S. government use of such a strong accusation. Yet Richard S. Williamson's visit to Khartoum follows a series of direct contacts by senior Bush administration officials with the Sudanese president, including Secretaries of State Colin L. Powell and Condoleezza Rice, Rice's deputies, and several special presidential envoys.

Bush has spoken to or exchanged letters with Bashir on numerous occasions, underscoring how White House policy has departed from his pointed public call to shun talks with radical tyrants and dictators.
 
Toady asks;  You can't have it both ways.  Either talking to you adversary, even without preconditions, is not appeasement OR George Bush is trying to appease Bahir, a man who has butchered more than a million people.  So which is it?
 
I will ask Chasby this question, but I am guessing he will not answer, because by answering he will be forced to acknowledge what a phony-balony we have for a president.  If he does choose to respond I will, of course, print his comment for anyone here to read.
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just messin' with you

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Was Hitler REALLY God's messenger?

John Hagee\'s McCain Endorsement Sparks Uproar
Rev Hagee says:
 
As a nation, America is under the curse of God, even nowLook at the scriptures and see for yourself. The stand we have taken on abortion, the stand we have taken against God in our classrooms, just may have sealed our doom."
 
Rev Hagee says:
 
Theodore Hertzel is the father of Zionism. He was a Jew that at the turn of the 19th century said - “this land is our land, God wants us to live there”. So he went to the Jews of Europe and said, “I want you to come and join me in the land of Israel”. So few went, Hertzel went into depression. Those who came founded Israel; those who did not went through the hell of the Holocaust. Then god sent a hunter. A hunter is someone who comes with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says - Jeremiah righty? - “they shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and out of the holes of the rocks”, meaning: there's no place to hide. And that will be offensive to some people. Well, dear heart, be offended:
 
Rev Hagee says:
 
Terry Gross: If you use the Bible as the basis for policy, is there any room for compromise? And if you use the bible as the basis for policy, should Muslims use the Koran as the basis for their policy, and then again, what possible basis is there for compromise at that point?

 

Rev Hagee: There is really no room for compromise between radical Islam --

Terry Gross: I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm just talking about Islam in general.

Rev Hagee: Well Islam in general-- those who live by the Koran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.
 
Rev Hagee says
 
Anti-Semitism in Christianity began with the statements of the early church fathers, including Eusebius, Cyril, Chrysostom, Augustine, Origen, Justin, and Jerome.... This poisonous stream of venom came from the mouths of spiritual leaders to virtually illiterate congregants, sitting benignly in their pews, listening to their pastors. They labeled the Jews as 'the Christ killers, plague carriers, demons, children of the devil, bloodthirsty pagans who look for an innocent child during the Easter week to drink his blood, money hungry Shylocks, who are deceitful as Judas was relentless.
 
The reverend hagee calls the Catholic Church the great wh*re ob Babylon, the apostate church and a false cult system.
 
Rev Hagee says:
 
"It's true that [John] McCain's campaign sought my endorsement."
 
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ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., admitted this morning that it was a mistake to accept the endorsement of Evangelical pastor Rev. John Hagee. When asked in an exclusive "This Week" interview with George Stephanopoulos if it was "a mistake to solicit and accept his endorsement", McCain replied "oh, probably, sure." Despite admitting his error, McCain made clear he's still "glad to have his endorsement."   

McCain spoke out against Hagee's "condemning of the Catholic church," but added that "I admire and respect Dr. Hagee's leadership...  I admire and appreciate his advocacy for the state of Israel, the independence of the state of Israel." McCain has previously admitted to soliciting Rev. Hagee's endorsement.

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big oil

Cal Thomas recently wrote a column defending big oil. In it he says;

Peter Robertson, vice chairman of Chevron, told me it's a myth that oil companies are not investing in new energy sources...  Robertson said there would be plenty of oil available to the United States if the oil companies were allowed to get it: "Eighty-five percent of offshore oil is off-limits."... According to government estimates, there is enough oil in areas accessible to America — 112 billion barrels — to power more than 60 million cars for 60 years. The Outer Continental Shelf alone contains an estimated 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. Had President Clinton not vetoed exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in 1995, when oil was $19 a barrel, America would currently be receiving more than 1 million barrels a day domestically, all of it taken by better technology than existed more than 30 years ago.
 
QUESTIONS:  HOW MUCH OIL HAS AMERICA GOT?  21 to 29 billion barrels
                         HOW MUCH IS IN ANWAR?                       6 to 16 billion barrels
                         IF WE DRILLED IN ANWAR HOW MANY BARRELS PER DAY WOULD WE GET?   .6 to 1.6 million barrels
                         CAN ANWR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE OUR DEPENDANCE ON FOREIGN OIL?   NO
 
The answer to question 1 above depends on the distinction between proven and unproven reserves:
 
Proved reserves are claimed with reasonable certainty (80% to 90% confidence) to be recoverable in future years by specified techniques. To meet this definition, the development scenario must have been defined and use known technology, and the scenario must be commercial under current economic conditions
 
Probable reserves are either unsubstantiated claims or based on median estimates of the accumulation that are more likely to be recovered than not (50% confidence). This can result from either better reservoir behaviour than expected under the proved category or additional investments to be decided over the medium to long term (three to ten years) using conventional techniques. 
 
When Cal says we have 112 billion barrels of oil, he is talking about unproven reserves.  The number seems to comes from an EIA report

"In comparison, the estimated volume of technically recoverable, accessible, unproved oil in the rest of the United States is 105 billion barrels, as of January 1, 2002.10 " 

The proven oil reserves are far less.  The same EIA quotes BP Statistical Review, Oil and Gas Journal and World Oil... The estimates for proven oil reserves in the US are between 21 and 29 billion barrels. 
 
My number for the amount of oil in ANWR also comes from the EIA.  They give best and worst case estimates.  The estimates are between 6 and 16 billion barrels.  From this we could produce between .6 and 1.6  million barrels per day.
 

the coastal plain of ANWR is projected to reach 0.9 million barrels per day under the USGS mean oil resource case, and 0.6 and 1.6 million barrels per day under the low and high resource cases, respectively. These cases include the impact of production in the Federal 1002 Area plus Native lands and the State offshore area within a 3-mile limit.

 
For comparison we import about 9 million barrels of oil per day.  Oil is fungible, so the total world wide production of oil is relevant.  WorldOil.com estimates total world production to be 80 million barrels per day.  So the ability to lower oil prices by drilling in ANWR is limited.  
 
CAN WE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE OUR DEPENDANCE ON FOREIGN OIL BY DRILLING IN ANWAR?
 
NO !
 
Cal Thomas agrees... he says:
 
No, we can't "drill our way out" of our addiction to oil, but we can make the transition to other energy sources easier while lessening our dependence on foreign oil and propping up dictators who use our money to subsidize terrorists. A slow transition will also give us time to consider more fuel-efficient cars and greater use of public transportation, even bicycles for short trips. Bikes would help more of us lose weight and get in shape.
 
The EIA report also agrees:

Opening the coastal plain of ANWR is projected to reduce 2025 oil import dependence from 70 percent in the AEO2004 reference case to 66 percent in the mean resource case.

 

 
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Honor the troops, but don't educate them

On Meet the Press Jim Webb discussed his GI Bill: 
 
"I introduced this GI bill my first day in office. The idea was to give the people who'd been serving since 9/11 the same educational benefits--the same right to a first class future--as those who served in World War II."

"No president in history has vetoed a benefits bill for those who've served," he continued. "[President Bush is] fine with sending these people over and over again where they're spending more time in Iraq than they are at home.

"He's fine with the notion of 'stop-loss,' where we can...make people stay in even after enlistments are done. And then we say, 'Give them the same benefit that the people in World War II have,' and they say it's too expensive. So I think the Republican Party is...on the block here to clearly demonstrate that they value military service, or suffer the consequences of losing the support of people who've served."
 
Republicans "honor" the troops, but oppose educating them.  It's too expensive they say... too generous.
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Chasby misquotes Obama

A week or so ago, Chasby sends me this:
 
"We don't deal with the serious issues that are in front of us, we try to figure out what's going to poll well and what can we do to get through the next election."
 
—Barack Obama being unwittingly candid about his campaign
 
He added the following comment:
 
What a stunning admission.  Barack is basically your garden-variety Democratic poll-driven politician.  Leadership is trivial.  What is important is how you are perceived in yesterday's polls.
 
 I looked up this quote, because it seemed odd to me.  Barack did say these words on Meet the Press, but they are a terribly cropped and out of context version of his statement.
 

Now, Senator Clinton says that she's going to use the windfall profits tax to fill it.  First of all, she's already said that she's going to use the windfall profits tax for something else, as I have, and, and that is to invest in clean energy and, and other important measures.  So that money, she's already spending twice.More importantly, nobody thinks that George Bush is actually going to spend--or is actually going to sign a law for windfall profits taxes, so that's not going to happen this summer. 

So what this is, is a strategy to get through the next election.  And Senator Clinton's own staff told The Washington Post, "We don't think this is really going to go anywhere.  We don't think it's going to work, but we think it's a good issue to use in a campaign." And that's what Washington does.  We, we, we don't deal with the serious issues that are in front of us, we try to figure out what's going to poll well and what can we do to get through the next election.

 

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24445166/page/3/
 
I asked Chasby if he was aware how badly out of context Obama's words were taken.  He didn't respond.  I think he might have been embarassed.
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torture

 Dean Barnett, posting on Hugh Hewitt's web site, once defended the use of torture by the American military.
 
"The anti-torture argument sits on a fragile branch of moral vanity. The torture opponents’ entire premise rests on the erroneous notion that one can successfully wage war without cruelty and savagery. I wish they were right. But they’re not."
 
 It turns out though that the abusive tactics he was referring to do not yield much actual intelligence. From the NY Times
 
F.B.I. Gets Mixed Review in Interrogation Report

WASHINGTON — A new Justice Department report praises the refusal of F.B.I. agents to take part in the military’s abusive questioning of prisoners in Guantánamo Bay, Iraq and Afghanistan, but it also finds fault with the bureau’s slow response to complaints about the tactics from its own agents, people with knowledge of the still-secret report said.

The department inspector general’s office is expected to conclude that no agents for the Federal Bureau of Investigation took part in the military’s rough interrogations, a key validation for the bureau, officials said. “The F.B.I. should be credited for its conduct and professionalism in detainee interrogations in the military zones,” the inspector general said in one section of the report, which is likely to be released publicly next week.

At the same time, however, the report is also expected to say that the F.B.I. was sometimes too slow to respond to what were often serious misgivings from its agents about interrogation tactics, officials said, and that it lacked clear guidelines and training on how such complaints should have been handled.

The F.B.I. stationed agents at Guantánamo Bay and other military detention sites to assist in the questioning of detainees taken into custody after Sept. 11, but the rough tactics by military interrogators soon became a major source of friction between the bureau and sister agencies. F.B.I. agents complained to superiors beginning in 2002 that the tactics they had seen yielded little actual intelligence, prevented them from establishing a rapport with detainees through more traditional means of questioning and might violate F.B.I. policy or American law.

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